[Discuss] Dwilight, SMA and Powergaming

[Jeremy Stephens]

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Subject: Re: [Discuss] Dwilight, SMA and Powergaming

On 21 May 2008 at 16:59, Stijn Van Hove wrote:

> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Jeremy Stephens 
> <jstephens at georgefox.edu> wrote:

> > Honestly, how exactly does that not fit?  Obviously the GM (GM's?) 
> > agree with you perspective but judging by the responses to this 
> > thread so far I would say that your (and the GM's opinions) are the 
> > minority.  Which means that unless there is some clarification there

> > are a lot of people who are not conforming to "the ideals" of what 
> > Dwilight is supposed to be... which is going to be leading to some 
> > big problems...

> Joining a realm with the SOLE purpose of being able to pass through 
> that realm without having to fight, and then leaving that realm again 
> as soon as you've walked through their lands?
> 
> WHAT is the RP explanation behind that? I see PURE powergaming here.
> If someone explains to me the RP behind that, I would understand that.

Sounds rather clever, actually. Nothing says a noble has to be honest in
his pledge of fealty. Perhaps he views the realm's banner as a flag of
conveniece? 
He's only flying the flag of the realm for a short time in order to
deceive the locals. It may not fit your view of a noble, but I can see
it as something a slighty-less-than-honorable noble might do in order to
make a safe midnight passage.

It all depends on how it is handled by the player. If he provides
suitable explanation *when asked*, then this is fine. If he replies with
an OOC "I'm just passing through and don't want to be captured", then
you could have a case for a complaint. In any case, if you don't ask him
for an explanation, and he gets in, through, and out without notice then
that's your problem, not his.


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Thank you.  That's my point exactly.  Again, the GM's have already ruled
and the characters have already been deported of the island so in many
ways it doesn't matter at this point.  However, what does keep this
conversation meaningful is that there are several situations I know of
(my character is still on Dwilight and was not deported, incase you were
wondering) that are doing the same kinds of things that these players
did and I don't see any of them getting deported which seems a bit
unfair... And unless there is a better understanding of the reasons then
more people are likely to get deported as well and still not understand
why.

-jeremy