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academy and train do so, they send it home or spend it on troops, so
only some of the dukes and kings have a high swordfighting skill. The
ones who do have a high skill, will likely have been infiltrators at
some
point in their past.

And what makes someone noble isn't just their blood, but how they act.
If you act in a way unbefitting for a noble, it can be disputed and
removed, for no noble would act like that and you therefore must have
been lying. Sneaking round being an infiltrator is about as
unbefitting for a
noble as I can imagine; in the same way that working for money causes you to
lose honour, because although you're a noble you shouldn't be
lowering yourself to doing that.

I also once suggested an artist type of class, and one of the arguments
against it was that nobles wouldn't have done that. I never said so at the
time, but if that is a reason not to have such a class, than surely the same
must be said for infiltrators?

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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/10/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jeremy Stephens</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:jstephens at georgefox.edu">jstephens at georgefox.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 0; margin-left: 0.80ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex">
<div><div><span class="gmail_quote"><span class="q"> </span></span></div><div><span class="gmail_quote"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Just a side note to this conversation.&nbsp; Infiltrators  typically have a high sword fighting skill because they spent time&nbsp;training  it before they ever became an infiltrator.&nbsp; From my time as judge and ruler  and lord of various regions I&#39;d say that the potential for those with titles and  or regions to have a high skill is much greater then the average knight.&nbsp;  Why?&nbsp; Well, usually if you&#39;re a big shot you&#39;ve been around a while and had  more battles or you have access to more gold and thus can afford the  training.&nbsp; Just like nobles in real life if you want to have a character  with a high sword fighting skill you have to put the time and effort into it and  that means gold and time at training.</font></span></span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div><div><span class="gmail_quote"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">As for infiltrators not being noble... they are noble by  blood.&nbsp; The choice of a profession does not make them less noble then  someone choosing to be a priest.&nbsp; Sure, their are jobs that are &quot;more  gloriously noble&quot; but it is the blood that makes them noble in the first  place.</font></span></span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div><div><span class="gmail_quote"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">With regard to advy&#39;s... yes, they usually have a high  sword fighting skill if they have been around a while.&nbsp; Keep in mine  however that those characters run the risk of dying before they ever make it to  knighthood and generally live a life that involves living every day by the sword  so they should have a better skill.&nbsp; They are stronger, in better shape and  if they can&#39;t use a weapon they would be dead.&nbsp; Also, not every adventure  choose to be a hunter and most of the advy&#39;s that I know of that have changed  over to knights have done so by collecting stuff and having unique items made so  their skills are probably no more then the average knight  anyway.</font></span></span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div><div><span class="gmail_quote"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">-jer</font></span></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>From&nbsp;my&nbsp;experience&nbsp;very&nbsp;few&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;people&nbsp;with&nbsp;the&nbsp;money&nbsp;to&nbsp;go&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;academy&nbsp;and&nbsp;train&nbsp;do&nbsp;so,&nbsp;they&nbsp;send&nbsp;it&nbsp;home&nbsp;or&nbsp;spend&nbsp;it&nbsp;on&nbsp;troops,&nbsp;so&nbsp;<br>
only&nbsp;some&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;dukes&nbsp;and&nbsp;kings&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;high&nbsp;swordfighting&nbsp;skill.&nbsp;The&nbsp;ones&nbsp;who&nbsp;do&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;high&nbsp;skill,&nbsp;will&nbsp;likely&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;infiltrators&nbsp;at&nbsp;some<br>point&nbsp;in&nbsp;their&nbsp;past.&nbsp;<br><br>And&nbsp;what&nbsp;makes&nbsp;someone&nbsp;noble&nbsp;isn&#39;t&nbsp;just&nbsp;their&nbsp;blood,&nbsp;but&nbsp;how&nbsp;they&nbsp;act.&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;act&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;way&nbsp;unbefitting&nbsp;for&nbsp;a&nbsp;noble,&nbsp;it&nbsp;can&nbsp;be&nbsp;disputed&nbsp;and&nbsp;<br>
removed,&nbsp;for&nbsp;no&nbsp;noble&nbsp;would&nbsp;act&nbsp;like&nbsp;that&nbsp;and&nbsp;you&nbsp;therefore&nbsp;must&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;lying.&nbsp;Sneaking&nbsp;round&nbsp;being&nbsp;an&nbsp;infiltrator&nbsp;is&nbsp;about&nbsp;as&nbsp;unbefitting&nbsp;for&nbsp;a<br>noble as I can imagine; in the same way that working for money causes you to lose honour, because although you&#39;re a noble you shouldn&#39;t be <br>
lowering yourself to doing that. <br><br>I also once suggested an artist type of class, and one of the arguments against  it was that nobles wouldn&#39;t have done that. I never said so at the time, but if that is a reason not to have such a class, than surely the same must be said for infiltrators? <br>
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