[Discuss] Religion that Matters

[Vinnie]

> That is the core problem. That some king, who often isn't even a member
> of the religion, effectively controlls it. I want _some_ power of the
> judges/kings over priests, as priests should not be totally independent,
> but right now the balance is off.

The problem isn't that the King has some power over the priest. The
problem is the priest doesn't have any power over the King.

And the problem is that it's hard to give religions more power and
still preventing all regions from becoming 1-realm-religions.

I think making religions richer, just from having a lot of converted
peasants, could work. And the only way I see to avoid state religions
is to let power of religions become much greater when they have more
followers.

Maybe something so that *all* nobles can be influenced just by what
certain priests say, rather than having to stir up the population in
every region. Something like how what the pope says can influence the
minds of a lot of people.

The way I see it, thoughk, religions need to be *more* powerful, not
less. But in that process, we need to avoid state religions, and the
only way is to make them either undesirable for the realms, or to make
it impossible for the realm to control.