[Discuss] Presenting false claims.

[Timothy Collett]

On Sep 12, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Loren Schmidt wrote:

> Sure, it paints him as ambitious and you can certainly doubt the  
> strength of that claim, but as I pointed out in the example you're  
> talking about he had a legitimate claim as did several others, and  
> he went ahead and tried to strengthen it.  It was called a fraud,  
> but the claim stuck, and there is still a claim now.

But now that people know that he is *willing* to forge papers to  
prove a claim, they cannot be certain that he did not do the same *in  
the first place* to gain the claim he has.

> The specific point I had been making in the OOC talk in the realm  
> was that the King claimed to have all the papers which would show  
> that a claim was false, when in fact the papers would show that  
> there was indeed a claim.

That was because Tonie assumed, as I did, and as I believe James did,  
and as we clearly all should not have, that the claim was there  
because, after failing to buy it, you succeeded (which we did because  
we didn't even know you *could* forge a stronger claim on a region  
you already have a claim on).  I apologize on all our behalf for that.

> That's something all together different and not something that  
> needs to be discussed here.  That's a Character playing as his  
> personality, and has nothing to do with how I feel about the  
> issue.  Serko has his views of what a monarchy is, and it's based  
> on respecting the system in place which means upholding claims to  
> regions, not placing 'cronies' in those spots.  Anything else in  
> his eyes is despotism plain and simple.

What Serko thinks has nothing to do with what the people murmur,  
unless he truly *is* out there spreading rumours.  What you  
roleplayed was rumours among the people, not what Serko was thinking.

Timothy Collett
Anaris Family

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