[Discuss] Estates Problems

[Christopher Subich]

Chuong Huynh wrote:
> regions back which have a claim while you keep 1 or 2. The claim does 
> exactly what its supposed to, if you dont like their counter proposal 
> you could kill off the realm and get stuck with the claims.

Doesn't work that way.

Cons of realm destruction:
* Bad diplomatic reputation (maybe)
* Claims that stick around until a database cleanup deletes the realm (2 
weeks - 1 month, given semi-recent experience)

Pros of realm destruction:
* No more annoying diplomacy with that pesky realm
* No worries about the old enemy gaining power and stabbing you in the back
* Free and clear title to /all/ of the realm's regions, eventually.
* A definite end to claims.  A month is quite a while, but the war may 
have lasted even longer.
* The only real way to take over a capital / last city.
* Peace through victory


Even with claims, pros, outweigh cons substantially.  The idea that 
claims prevent a determined foe from destroying a realm is a pipe dream.

Instead, claims prevent minor skirmishes and low-intensity wars.  Now, 
fi you're going to go to war, you may as well make it a big one.  The 
effect of claims seems to be the opposite of its intent, since a 
stronger realm can't just take one region and stop.