[Discuss] Simplest possible terms: Why buying a title = bad

[Josiah Allen]

On 6/27/07, Vinnie <vinnietje at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2007/6/27, Karl Greenley <pyrtolin at gmail.com>:
> > On 6/27/07, Timothy Collett <danaris at mac.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 27, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Karl Greenley wrote:
> > > >  No- the mechanic means that you did vote for him- that the game has
> > > > force your hand.
> > >
> > > This is absolutely, 100%, incontrovertibly wrong, and shows a deep
> > > misunderstanding of the nature of RP, and of the "buy title" feature
> > > as it existed until recently.
> >
> >   It's more or less explicitly what has been stated by the game master
> > as the intent and purpose of the rule. To the point that punishment
> > has been threatened for players that attempt to subvert it.
>
> I think you are understanding it wrongly, Karl. The game mechanic says
> he got the position through fraud. That doesn't mean people actually
> voted for him. That doesn't mean my character voted for him, it simply
> means he forged the vote.
>
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As Tom just stated, regardless of whatever crazy laws your realm has, even
direct appointment only by a dictator, he has beaten the system and should
be considered as legit as every other lord.

Accepting this fact is called roleplaying, because your characters somehow
were duped (by the rules of the game) and you need to have them reflect that
fact, and while you can say 'this new lord talks too much' you can't say 'he
shouldn't be lord' no more than you can say that about any lord, because
questioning the new lord is questioning the entire system, including any
titles you hold.

Those who say this roleplaying 'isn't in the character of my character' are
realizing that this is a roleplaying game, not a short story.  The game
mechanics trump story.

In Dungeons and Dragons, if my level 20 thief critically fails a simple jump
test and falls into a pit, I can't say "But it doesn't make sense, he's
trained for years to do this sort of thing, he obviously would make it."
instead I have to say "Oh no, my thief had a minor stroke during his jump
and stumbled." or some other explanation that doesn't contradict the
mechanics because I need to roleplay to conform to the game, not the other
way around.
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