[Discuss] "roleplaying island"

[Samuel Knowlton]

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donation_of_Constantine
>> it's obtuse to say there weren't any that were never discovered. 

The Donation of Constantine both pre-dates feudalism and relied upon a 400-year-old Imperial edict. It would be like saying "I was appointed Duke not by the present ruler, but by the guy who was ruler eighteen rulers before him."

Is also is more accurately a forged claim than a forged title. It still required enormous military and political support and was largely useless without either.

>>And forging claims also occured.  All one has to do is claim you're related to some great lord of the past, and this was common, especially in Roman >>times.  To forge a claim is effectively to forge a title when there's no other lord.  Perhaps it should be 'buy a claim' but anyone with a claim can take control 

There was no such thing as "unlorded land" in Medieval times. If there was no heir, the title reverted to the overlord. If the land was so remote or unimportant that the overlord didn't care of couldn't enforce it, it would do the equivalent of "going rogue" in BM terms and just wait for whomever marched in with an army.

>>If we expanded the personal claim stuff perhaps it would be more sensible.

I agree with you there.
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