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c or democracy in deed, if not in word, and those in power have to constant=
ly work towards keeping their people happy or region lords and dukes will n=
ot send food or worse, leave the realm altogether. I guess what I am sayin=
g is that if BM is going to keep heading in the current direction then we m=
ight as well simplify things have one "type" of government available. Why =
such a drastic change? Well, since as far as I can tell there are very ver=
y few real differences between any realm at this point no matter what they =
call themselves why pretend? Or, could effort and time be devoted towards =
actually giving government types different authority based on the form of g=
overnment they are?
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><BR><BR>I agree, there are just not enough differ=
ences between the goverments. I also believe to much power is given to the =
region lords. For I understand that in a republik those will have a lo=
t of power, in a theocracy priest should also be able to have more options =
and power available and that you actually have to put a religion as the sta=
te religion (as in game code set it). For what is happening now is to much =
focus on the region lords while it depends mostly on the goverment type if =
a region lord has a lot of power etc. I agree that we have to keep the diff=
erent goverments, but to make them a lot different from each other. That wa=
y I think BM will get a lot more fun and interesting for everyone. And more=
real if you look at the goverments themselves.<BR><BR>
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:33:40 -0700<BR>From: jstephens at georgefox.edu<BR>To=
: discuss at news.battlemaster.org<BR>Subject: [Discuss] Discuss: Implement di=
fferences in government types or just have one style?<BR><BR>
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<FONT size=3D2>There has been a great deal of changes recently in moving po=
wer away from the rulers of realms and placing it back in the hands of regi=
on lords etc. However this is, IMHO, leading to all governments basically b=
eing the same vanilla thing, despite their actual form of government. =
<SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>For instance, I have a characte=
r that is a dictator... that implies a certain absolute power. <SPAN c=
lass=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>As a dictator I should be able to ban =
someone without needing a judge to carry out my orders etc. after all I'm t=
he dictator. <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>The only diff=
erence is that there are not monthly elections but then again a monarchy do=
esn't have that either so big deal. <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-0910200=
7> </SPAN>I cannot appoint and <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007>"</=
SPAN>un<SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007>"</SPAN>appoint people at my whi=
m and I cannot really "wield" any form of power at all. <SPAN class=3D=
EC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>I accomplish a great deal but that is done th=
rough kindness and diplomacy not power.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2></FONT> <BR>
<FONT size=3D2>According to the BM wiki this is a Tyranny:</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2>"The ultimate power trip for a ruler, Tyranny ensures that t=
here is one person with the vote, with true power in the realm. <SPAN =
class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>This person is the ruler. <SPAN =
class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>Other council positions still exist b=
ut are much reduced compared to other governments. <SPAN class=3DEC_79=
6014920-09102007> </SPAN>The destiny of the realm, in the end, lies on the =
rulers shoulders. </FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2>As with monarchy, the ruler is elected just once. <SPAN=
class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN>Once elected, the ruler appoints all=
other positions in the realm. </FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2>The slight benefit for the average noble is that all votes a=
re equal; no matter rank or prestige. <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102=
007> </SPAN>However, since all power ultimately lies with the ruler, it is =
not as much of a blessing as it would seem."</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2></FONT> <BR>
<FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007>I would like to see =
;the</SPAN> dictator have all the options of the bankers and the judges as =
well as that of the rulers. <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPA=
N>Sure the judge can ban someone but the dictator should be able to as well=
, without needing to grovel and make nice to the judge and "request" someon=
e to be banned.<SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> </SPAN> After all,=
this is a Tyranny and he has ultimate power, right? <SPAN class=3DEC_=
796014920-09102007> </SPAN>Why would he need to "ask a favor" of the judge =
when a real dictator would have the threat beating from the secret police t=
o ensure people bend to his will... that is until they can't stand the oppr=
ession and call for a rebellion.<SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> =
A tyrant should have options to "punish" people if they get out of line... =
from keeping food from getting to their people, to calling for an extra tax=
in their region as punishment for not following orders. And they sho=
uld certainly have more power over non-titled nobles as well... perhaps dic=
tators should be able to give good/bad marks to anyone in the realm as well=
?</SPAN></FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2>As it is now I don't have any real power within the realm...=
I spend more time "keeping up the moral" and "keeping people in the loop" =
in a dictatorship then I've seen in any other realm. <SPAN class=3DEC_=
796014920-09102007> </SPAN>Yes, I can set policies and declare war etc. but=
I'm certainly not wielding the power implied by the BM wiki or<SPAN class=
=3DEC_796014920-09102007> the definition (<A href=3D"http://www.m-w.com/dic=
tionary/tyrant" target=3D_blank>http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tyrant</A>)&n=
bsp;of a tyrannical leader.</SPAN> </FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3D2>From what I can tell every government is basically functioni=
ng as a republic or democracy in deed, if not in word<SPAN class=3DEC_79601=
4920-09102007>,</SPAN> and those in power have to constantly work towards k=
eeping their people happy or region lords and dukes will not send food or w=
orse, leave the realm altogether. <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007>=
</SPAN>I guess what I am saying is that if <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920=
-09102007>BM</SPAN> <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007>is</SPAN> goin=
g to keep heading in the <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102007>current <=
/SPAN>direction then we might as well <SPAN class=3DEC_796014920-09102=
007>simplify things </SPAN>have one "type" of government available<SPAN cla=
ss=3DEC_796014920-09102007>. Why such a drastic change? Well,</=
SPAN> since as far as I can tell there are very very few real differen=
ces between any realm at this point no matter what they call themselves<SPA=
N class=3DEC_796014920-09102007> why pretend? </SPAN><SPAN class=3DEC=
_796014920-09102007>Or, could effort and time be devoted towards&=
nbsp;actually giving government types different authority based on the=
form of government they are?</SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr=
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