[Discuss] Roleplaying police, bust me first.

[Vinnie]

> > Your entire argument rests on the assertion that, because it is a game
> > mechanic, it is good and should not be challenged.
>
> Not in-game (as in "your title can't be right, step down").

Why not? It all depends on the situation. If I buy a title, and I have
no ingame support, I will just be challenged and my title will be
removed. If I have support and am not just some random guy that did
nothing but click 1 stupid button, then I might keep it. Why do you
want to give people a city when all they did was click a button, and
no one can even challenge it?

> The proper place to challenge it is here.

Why? You assume it must be OOC knowledge.

I bought this title myself in Sandefur. People DID challenge me, they
did accuse me of fraud. And my character denied, of course. But no
matter how much he denied, some people just never bought my story. You
know why? Because it was damn obvious.

Did I complain about that? Did I say, "I just clicked 1 button so
stfu"? No, because IC, it maked perfect sense for people to question
my title, no matter how convincing my documents might have been.


Example. If I come claiming to be the new King of Belgium, there are
going to be people that will be unhappy. There's going to be some
royal family as well. There's going to be people who don't like me,
who never knew me, who find it odd that I *am* king now. They might
not be able to prove that I am *not* King, but that doesn't change the
fact that they might accuse me of fraud, even if only to avoid me from
remaining king. In game, this equals the "just clicking button, no
support, fraud fails".

However. If I am the niece of the queen of England and I claim to be
the King of Belgium while the old one just died and he had no sons and
I promised 1000000 dollar to the Kings of all my neighbours so they
support me, well, then it's a different story. This equals the
"clicking button, playing it right, getting support, maybe keep the
city".

The thing is, that sounds how it should be, and guess what? That's
exactly how it was, before we came introducing *another* OOC rule.

George Bush might be able to prove beyond any doubt that his DNA is
exactly, virtually the same as that of Tuthankhamon. No one might be
able to prove him wrong, but that still does not mean I do believe
him. Now, that's no problem, but if no one believes him, it might be a
problem.

> Not both. Just here. In-game, game mechanics are like natural laws. You
> might not like gravity, but gravity couldn't care less.

What is your point? Just because game mechanics are mechanics doesn't
mean they can't be changed. Unlike gravity, if game mechanics are bad,
they can be coded differently. Mechanics are more like gravity in The
Matrix.