[Discuss] time to scrap the moderated list

[Timothy Collett]

On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:03 PM, psymann wrote:
> This is rubbish.  Forums can do many things that usenet groups can't.
> Explain to me how, on this discussion list, I can:
> - add pictures to explain my argument
> - use coloured text to make it clearer to explain things

You can do either of those with HTML mail, which is another  
abomination that should never have been.

> - pin a FAQ topic

Use the Wiki.  Point people there.  We're actually working on a FAQ  
that Tom can link from the list footer.

> There are just some of the things that a forum can do that a usenet
> group cannot.  So the idea that a mailing list does all a forum can do
> is quite wrong.

If the things that a forum can do that a mailing list cannot are not  
things that Tom *wants* to do, then they might as well not be there.

> I'm not asking for a forum, I am showing that just because Tom has  
> said something once does not make it right or desirable for ever more.

You are not getting this, and I don't know how to pound it into your  
head.  If Tom says he will never allow it, and not to ask for it, you  
don't ask for it.  Tom has strong opinions on a number of things that  
I don't think are likely to change.

> And just because Tom has said something does not mean you have to  
> agree with it.  Tom is not God.

I don't agree with everything Tom decides.  I don't even agree with  
his policy of never even discussing his "frequently rejected" list  
all the time.  I have tried ever since I joined the game to get Tom  
to change his mind on some things.  But these are the rules, and  
neither you nor I are going to change them.

> (And his name's not even Simon).

...and yours is, and so we should do what you say? ;-)

> My point really had nothing to do with forums other than as an example
> that it is annoying if something that was "never" going to happen in
> 2004 cannot ever be discussed, even years later, just because Tom said
> it would never happen.

In the words of the Dread Pirate Westley, "Learn to live with  
disappointment."

Timothy Collett
Anaris Family

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