[Discuss] Honor/Prestige

[Nate Shupe]

>Thinking about this, I'm wondering why we can't attempt to *buy*
>honor or prestige, for those who consider it so valuable.  Obviously,
>it wouldn't be on the "5 gold per honor" system, but more like,
>"There was a huge and glorious battle in a neighboring region.  It's
>a shame you weren't able to make it in time, but your scribe assures
>you that for about 10 gold in beer and forged messages, everyone can
>*think* you were there.  Imagine how prestigious that would be!  (But
>also imagine how dishonorable it would look if you got found out!
>Maybe you'd better spend 20 just to be sure...)"
>The base chance of success would depend on how much gold you spend,
>as well as whether you had realm-mates in the battle, number of
>actual participants, how many regions away you were (maybe you were
>in the region but your troops were wounded, or you successfully
>evaded), etc.  Perhaps you could also attempt to plant stories more
>or less believable from "Merely participated" which would net you 1
>or 2 honor, but would be easy to get away with, to "Saved the day"
>which would net you 1 or 2 prestige, but would be damned hard to get
>away with (especially if your side lost...)
>
>It wouldn't just manipulate the H/P system, it would also throw in
>some unpredictability -- if your less loyal TLs are convinced that
>they'll lose a battle, they might be more willing to stay out of it
>and plan to just pretend they fought.
>
>John
>
Now, don't get me wrong- I love the idea of finding new ways to get honor 
and prestige; however, I don't see this as being able to work.  Every battle 
produces a battle report, which would include all the details of who was 
there.  If one were to buy a claim that they were there, anyone with that 
report could simply just look at it and say, "No, you weren't."  The only 
way to make it work would be to do so like with buying titles- it TELLS you 
that you fall for it; again, this probably won't work.

While it might be easy for somebody to go unnoticed whil in a big battle, I 
just don't think people on a large scale would agree to play this out.  IF 
your idea is to not make it known to nobles, then what's the point?

How about something more like, pay some people to exagerate your and gossip 
about your performance in battle.  Again, you have people thinking that you 
did something heroic in battle, but this way they casn't just look at a 
report and say "You were'nt even there."  They'd just be more like, "Wow, I 
fought with THAT guy?"

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