[Discuss] Abusing Bounties
Jeff Wilson
jjwilson61 at cox.net
Sat Apr 21 21:17:03 CEST 2007
Jeremy Stephens and I had a little side-conversation on this but I would
like to hear more views on this, so I'm copying it to the whole list.
(I know this is top-posting, but as an introduction to this text it makes
more sense to me to put it at the top. But, I've also posed some questions
at the bottom).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Stephens [mailto:jstephens at georgefox.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:57 PM
> To: Jeff Wilson
> Subject: RE: [Discuss] Abusing Ransoms
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Wilson [mailto:jjwilson61 at cox.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:31 PM
> To: Jeremy Stephens
> Subject: RE: [Discuss] Abusing Ransoms
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeremy Stephens [mailto:jstephens at georgefox.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:22 PM
> > To: jjwilson61 at cox.net
> > Subject: RE: [Discuss] Abusing Ransoms
> >
> > Hi ya Jeff,
> > The title of your email to the d-list peaked my interest... What
> are
> > you thinking?
> >
> > -jeremy
>
> I was going to complain, er I mean, discuss, a Titan decision but I
> thought I ought to contact Tom about it first. I just forgot to
> change the Subject.
>
> But since we're on the subject, would you say that having a character
> with a price on his head encouraging and trying to make it easy for
> other people in his realm to collect that ransom is an abuse?
>
> =========================
>
> I've always kind of wondered about that and I have suspected a few
> people of setting ransoms on their own characters and jazz but there
> is no way to prove it. Now, I am not sure about someone encouraging
> people to take him down... I don't see the point unless he is trying
> to get a fame point and is putting a bounty on his own head...
Jeff:
That's kind of what Tom said, that since they could have discussed it IRC
and not been caught and since he cannot think of a way to change the code to
fix it, there is nothing he can do.
I don't see why the fact that they could have gone IRC is relevant. They
discussed it in game so they must have found that more convenient. Perhaps
punishing them and taking the bounty off the guys head would discourage them
in the future, or perhaps it wouldn't. But isn't stopping the current abuse
worth it?
Jeremy:
Oh I totally agree with you. I've argued for that kind of action on a few
different things in the game and I've never managed to get that to happen.
The problem is that Tom tends to err on the side of do less then do more it
seems. But I still think it is crap that they can abuse it that way.
=================
The whole problem is that assassinations don't really kill anyone so there
is little disincentive for someone with a huge bounty to invite a friend to
get him to collect it. Does anyone see a way to change the game to fix this
problem? (The obvious ones are to let assassinations actually kill a player
or to get rid of bounties, but I doubt either one of those will fly).
And if they are discovered because they discussed it in game, is the fact
that they could have discussed it in IRC and not gotten caught relevant to
whether there should be consequences?
_____
From: discuss-bounces at news.battlemaster.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces at news.battlemaster.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Knowlton
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:05 AM
To: discuss at news.battlemaster.org
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Re: On Questioning Nobility
>> I don't see why a ruler would have the power to strip someone's nobility
and then not have the power to restore it.
Because you can't un-trash somebody's reputation once it's trashed just by
saying 'oops, I didn't mean it.'
That cat doesn't go back in the bag.
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