[Discuss] Any plans to introduce a new island?

[James]

LilWolf wrote:
> Tom Vogt wrote:
>> Quick fix: Tell people not to message the whole realm with every 
>> piece of nonsense.
>
> That doesn't work. They'll just ask for support from the others 
> responsible for nonsense messages and steamroll over the dissenting 
> voices and the silent majority that doesn't care about anything but 
> getting their hands on the latest orders. They'll say that's what the 
> message system is there for. Some people use it for long OOC talks in 
> front of the whole realm that have nothing to do with the game(e.g. 
> they're getting to know the players behind the characters in front of 
> the whole realm), because that's the only easy mechanism the game 
> provides for discussion with other players.
>
>>
>> "whole duchy" should be more than sufficient if you just want to talk.
>>
>
> The thing is, for most people, the "whole duchy" does not reach the 
> right people so they don't use it. Picking individual recipients every 
> time you send a message in a realm with 80-100(not to mention 150+!) 
> nobles is a cumbersome task so people avoid doing that as much as they 
> can. This leads to most people sending everything to the whole realm, 
> unless it's just a single person they want to talk to.
>
> It just boils down to the issue that the message system does not 
> handle discussion within a small group very well and people are trying 
> to use it as some sort of a forum that allows free discussion about 
> everything. It's a lot of work sending messages to small groups and 
> people don't want to see a lot of trouble just to send a message.
>
> Now, we did talk about this a while ago on IRC and a few ideas were 
> thrown around. I remember most notably personal message groups. The 
> king can already form message groups, why not let an individual player 
> to form a few private groups that only he himself can see and use? 
> Maybe allow message groups such as that to be forwarded as scribe 
> notes to others for easy replication and inclusion in the group? I 
> don't know how hard it would be to implement or if it's even possible, 
> but it would probably cut down on the amount of messages people send 
> to the whole realm.
>
Tom, I don't think you realize the extent... I know the group they're 
talking about and the messages from one of them totaled 25 in a matter 
of 3 hours he was on during the turn.  That isn't counting the other 3 
characters in the group.