[Discuss] reversal on Capital Move

[AJ]

On 10/13/06, Timothy Collett <danaris at mac.com> wrote:
>
> BS.  We all know that there are *IC* advantages to be gained by doing
> various things.  That's why they're abuse: *because* they can gain us
> an advantage we shouldn't be able to gain.
>
> If there were "no advantages," then nothing could be considered
> abuse, not even exploiting a bug, because it couldn't be considered
> to gain you anything.
>
> Frankly, Tom, you've been all over the map these past few months.  I
> understand that you've been under a lot of stress, but it's also
> putting a lot of stress on *us*.  We don't know what's right and
> what's wrong anymore--and even if we think we know today, you come
> around tomorrow and change it, and get mad at us for using what you
> said yesterday.  I took *exactly what you said* in-game--and today, I
> got a GM warning to stop using your name to "push my agenda."
>
> My agenda was *TO DO WHAT YOU SAID*!  I *NEVER* misquoted you: I used
> exactly what you said several times, in context.  You didn't reverse
> it until just now, so I take extreme umbrage at being *warned* for
> doing *what you told me to do!*
>
If you make a decision, blast and curse it, Tom, make it clear, and
> make it final!  Yes, I would prefer it if the abusers in the Luz de
> Bia case were actually punished for what they did, preferably by
> having their capital moved back.  I think that letting them keep
> their capital there sends a message that abuse will be tolerated, so
> long as it's a first offense, and the price for moving a capital to
> win a war is a couple of days of one character being out of action.


Really Timothy, Did Tom say that there were "abusers in the Luz de
Bia", are you quoting him again? Or are you outrightly calling the player so
Luz de Bia? You take "umbrage" at Tom warning you? I take more offence at
you calling so many players as abusers/cheaters or whatever work you can
come up with your vocabulary.

With all the stuff you have been spewing in the rulers channel, and now with
the statement above you made about the players of Luz (I am one of them),
you have lost all respect I had for you. I honestly wished to remain silent
but now that Tom has made another decision to simplify the rules of the game
(Refer to the thread about definition of cheating/abuses), under which you
might not have your way, you come here and mouth off Tom? I always thought
you were better than that. What makes you say that we did abuse the game? Or
cheated? What do you know of the internal discussion, talk about the capital
move itself? Have you any idea? Or are you assuming that since Luz de Bia
went to war with Riombara the capital move was done solely for that? Please
be sure before you answer my questions (If you do)


But worse than that is your inability to stick to a single decision!
> BattleMaster is *suffering* because of a lack of clear direction on
> issues of justice: the Titans are viewed as not listening to the
> accused when they *do* take a case, and as not taking any case that
> they have to do *any* work to prove--even if the person complaining
> to them doesn't have the tools to get the proof needed.  Your rules
> are obscure, ill-defined, and inconsistent, and your decisions are,
> clearly, not something we can act on safely!



If you think that there is a lack of direction in the game, that is only
because you do not trust Tom in his decisions or his vision for the game.
You want to push what you feel is right. If you want to see direction, then
trust Tom's decision. BM is 5+ years old not by mere chance or fluke that it
is so old and is going stronger and stronger with passing time.


If you want us to be able to play this game without fear of abusers
> taking over, or you frying us for something we didn't know was wrong,
> *please*, make some sort of *consistent* rule system *and* punishment
> system.
>
> Anything else will leave us stumbling around in the dark.  Like we
> are now.



You speak for yourself. Stumbling in the dark? I do not think so. Maybe you
are taking the game far too seriously. Play it as what it is, a game. Enjoy
it and maybe you might not feel as you do.

This will be my only reply and only because you chose to call me and 40
other players abusers/cheaters whatever (Which so far you had been doing
saying Tom said so)

aJ
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