[Discuss] Feature request - remove council member from power

[Robert Croson, Jr]

On 2 Nov 2006 at 17:42, Thomas Dalton wrote:

> > Consequences of a player's actions should be based on the *actions* of the ther
> > players, not their *inaction*. If the stripped noble feels that their cause is
> > worthy, then they should try to raise support from the rest of the nobles of the
> > realm. If they can't, then perhaps their cause isn't as worthy as they seem to
> > believe.
> 
> Exactly what I was saying, except you've drawn the wrong conclusion.

Can we just say that I've drawn a different conclusion than you? From my point 
of view, *you* are the one that is wrong.

> The consequence that should require action is a noble losing their
> nobility - if not enough people act, the noble should keep their
> nobility. The burden of raising support should be on the ruler, not
> the noble. If the ruler can't gain enough support, then their cause is
> the one that isn't worthy.

The ruler should be free to issue any proclamation that they want, whenever 
they want. It is their prerogative as ruler of the realm. The ruler doesn't need 
the affirmation of the realm to declare something. All he does is stamp his seal 
and it's done.

In addition to the already not-insignificant penalties imposed on them by game 
mechanics (loss of honor and prestige), they are in danger of a possible 
backlash against them by the nobles of their realm. This can result in further 
loss of honor/prestige, and possible removal of them from the throne.

But all these extra consequences of the ruler's actions require action on the part 
of the nobles. The game itself already levies it's punishment (H/P loss). 
Everything else is up to the players.