[Discuss] "last seen" troopleader list feature removed?

[Eric]

Bob wrote:

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>
> On 5/11/06, *Eric* <ericsp at pcisys.net <mailto:ericsp at pcisys.net>> wrote:
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>     Bob wrote:
>
>>     There's concern that this feature was really removed. Was it?
>>
>>     As a judge, I try to always avoid punishing players for being
>>     inactive, and this is THE main tool I use to tell if a player is
>>     inactive. Sure, they can just tell me if they couldn't login to
>>     follow an order or whatnot... but what if they don't tell? Then
>>     either the player is inactive, or the character is ignoring me,
>>     and I can't tell which it is.
>
>     It is a light wieght game and there really isn't a need to know
>     how active a player is.  The game takes care of the main issues
>     with inactivity.  And it has been addressed that BM is not a game
>     of following orders it is a game of interaction.  Blindly
>     following orders would be a game called **It's not my fault I was
>     just following orders: The War Crimes Tribunal*
>
>     *And do you really issue that many orders as a Judge?  I find that
>     a little unsettling.*
>     *
>
>
> I'm aware it's a "lightweight game." But nevertheless there ARE orders 
> given (no, not by me as Judge) and if they aren't followed, they are 
> punishable by fine. There's a reason Generals can give orders and 
> Judges can give fines. BUT, I do not punish if a player just didn't 
> log in to do it, since that would punish the player not the character. 
> And the way I tell if a player wasn't there to do that is twofold: 
> one, discussion with the player and two, logon times. If a player 
> hasn't been active for 4 days, OBVIOUSLY he won't be able to follow 
> orders from 1 day ago, will he? Hence he shouldn't be punished. 
> Unfortunately now I cannot tell if this is the case.
>
> So now I have a choice.
>
> 1, don't punish anyone for disobedience again.
> 2, punish anyone for disobedience even if they were or are inactive.
>
> I don't like 1 since it compromises the military and the government of 
> the realm, and I sure as hell don't like 2 since it'll violate 
> inalienable rights. Not much of a choice is it? Now do you see why 
> that "last seen" feature is good? It helps protect inalienable rights.
>
>
No it sucks and is overused.  I am sorry but there is few that have my 
extensive in game command experience period.

1) Stop ordering your people about about like simple simons.

2) Stop listening to your general whine that the reason for his failure 
is this person and they need to be fined.

3) Stop fining so damned much.

4) Unless you have a personal caring relationship with someone stop 
being so concerned if they are active.

It is all excuses.  Inactivity is not that big of a deal and if you 
can't figure out who is a bad egg without a freakin counter than either 
they are doing something very right, which good for them, or you are 
doing something very wrong, which bad for you.  If you go off on ban 
spree because people are jumping to ther second they are ordered too... 
than you deserve whatever you get.
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