[Discuss] Re: Fined for inactivity

[Timothy Collett]

On Jun 5, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Eric wrote:

> Thomas Dalton wrote:
>>>  The last log on was used and abused to fine, kick, and ban for not
>>> following orders and it has for years.
>>
>> How is that abuse?  It sounds like use to me.
> Ok.  A general orders a person to mover out full well knowing the  
> person is inactive and repeats the orders and then ask the judge to  
> ban that person.  The judge bans for not following orders.  That  
> was by far and wide the most used kick/fine in the game.  It is  
> pure OOC and worse lazy and not actually playing with people.

But that will happen with or without it.  Before, the people who  
wanted to be nice would be able to see that the person was inactive,  
and not send them orders at all, just wait to see if they would  
become active.

>>   It was there so you
>> could tell if someone was inactive - if they were, you waited until
>> they got back and didn't worry about them until then.
> People have been banned/fined for not saying that they were going  
> to be inactive.  Again very common.

And it can still happen--the people who are going to do that won't  
care if they can see that you've logged in, they'll just fine you or  
ban you for ignoring the orders.

>>   If they were
>> active, but still not obeying orders, then you dealt with them.
>> That's use, not abuse.  If you're convinced it's abuse, then what is
>> the intended use?
>>
> Do you read what Tom says at all?  I will not reharsh what I have  
> said a thousand times and mostly just echoing Tom, who has stated  
> it a thousand times himself.  BM is not army man.

So...if you don't like an order I give, *talk to me!*

If you just want to do your own thing, find a solo game.  This one is  
supposed to be a collective game, and Tom has deliberately made it  
hard to go around as a rogue.

I honestly don't understand what you think the purpose is behind  
being able to just ignore orders and do your own thing.  It may be  
fun for some people, but in general, there are only 2 uses of it:
1) protest against stupid orders (you should probably say something  
about it anyway, but if they're that stupid, think about rebelling or  
leaving)
2) be a useless troublemaker (we don't want that type in the game,  
generally)

Timothy Collett
Anaris Family

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