[Discuss] 2 family members in government positions

[Tyrell Family]

Lyman Stone got out the rock slab and etched the following on 6/2/2006 
7:28 PM:
  > They hold mor einfluence than you might think.

Oh please, I would trade your Dukeship for my Lordship *any* day.  Cut 
the tripe, you don't get a fame point for a reason, think about it.

> I think I am a newer player, and I know I wouldnt rejoice. Its funny how 
> almost everyone on this list is an old fart themselves. Lets all sound 
> off who on here has been in game less than 1 year, shall we? I think I'm 
> on 8 months now. Not new, but newer. Most players are quiet people who 
> wouldnt mind having a lordship, but arent going to do anything 
> outstanding to deserve it. Well, I think they should have to do 
> something outstanding to deserve it.

Erhmmm. Never mind your griping about Lordship again...

> A player is not entitled to a lordship, or a council position, or what 
> have you. They are a reward and, considering the stress involved in some 
> of them, at times a dubious one. I know that in my short stint as a 
> ruler, I got a cumulative 5 minutes of joy from the position, which isnt 
> to say I enjoyed the game less, merely didnt particularly think the 
> position itself is some great bringer-of-joy.

5 minutes?  That was really a _short_ stint wasn't it?  I guess you 
really must have pissed some characters off.

> If getting positions to new players were so important, it would be an 
> inalienable right. As Timothy did, lets take these rules to the extreme. 
> One position per account, okay. Well, if we continue this course of 
> making it easier for new players to get positions, we will soon try and 
> keep the player:region ratio 1:1, something I think we can all agree is 
> impossible, and it just shouldnt be done.

Yeah and let's make gold limitless too since we are going to extremes, 
and let's remove the restriction men flowing into RC's, so that new 
players can experience the full flavour of BM.

> Lordships, council positions, etc, are rewards, not rights.
>>
>> On the other hand I don't think you answer the question as to why the 
>> initial restriction was put into place in the beginning.  It is time 
>> to expand it now that there are over 1000 players gaming.

> Why was the initial restriction put into place? And if West Continent 
> comes anytime before 2k players, we'll be fine, its a big continent from 
> what I've seen.

You really don't know what your talking about.  You've been playing for 
what, 8 months?  Then you haven't even seen an undead invasion of 
Belutera, and you really don't know how BM has _grown_, except for the 
last 8 months.  Have a look at the number of dead realms, as you can 
imagine, each of the non-south islands has actually lost many realms, 
the amount of available council positions have 'shrunk' significantly. 
Relaxing the restrictions does what exactly?  And how does that add 
'diversity' to the game?

So create room so that the 'old farts' cannot retain the most powerful 
structures all over the place, that will be the greatest most immediate 
incentive for diversity.

So really I haven't heard a _valid_ argument to relax the restriction, 
just complaints about _lordship_ and cheapening new players.  That's 
just really lame and completely baseless.

Jeremy