[Discuss] New realm in Atarama?

[Thomas Dalton]

> I've already explained it wasn't an ooc reaction at all.  I did to you
> right after but I believe you were on vacation and didn't see it.  I did
> investigate it before I stripped him.  An in-character investigation.
> Do you think that would not turn up what really happened?  Just because
> my characters doesn't "know" doesn't mean he can't have a burning
> suspicion and act on it.  Just because we don't know everything in
> character doesn't mean we have to make our characters dumb to the
> world.  His family had never even been in Atamara before, he did no role
> play, I saw no reason to acknowledge the claim in the first place.

The problem is, if there's an obvious reason not to believe his
claims, then he must have come up with a good explanation or the
administrators in the region wouldn't have believed him either - they
aren't stupid.

You say his family had never been on Atamara before - that just can't
be true, or the claim would have been impossible. It must be that an
NPC member of his family, maybe a couple of hundred years ago, did go
to Atamara and you know nothing about it. If the game says he's
produced believable evidence of a claim, your character can't
instantly dismiss it.

Perhaps there should be a "Dispute claim" option which does almost
exactly the same as the "Make a claim" option, but backwards. You hand
over gold, and in return you get proof that some ancestor of the
claimant was illegitimate (or whatever) and they lose the position - I
would suggest having it so you choose how much gold to spend and the
more you spend, the better you chances of success. If the claim was
indeed false (you can use the option on regular appointments as well)
then your chances of success are much greater.

If there was such an option, then anyone disputing the claim without
using the option would be outright powergaming and could be lightning
bolted without a second thought. As it stands at the moment, the only
way you can dispute it is through RP, which makes it difficult to
decide whether a dispute is IC or OOC.

I would like some way to prevent people knowing OOC that a claim is
false, but the only way I could think of (a random chance of someone
being discovered to have a claim without them having anything to do
with it) got rejected (I don't remember why).