[Discuss] Could you remove the rape option?

[Gloria Santos]

On 8/31/06, Jonathon Taylor <jonathon.its.never.enough at googlemail.com>
wrote:
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> Oh wait? Sorry! They have! And they're a better person because of it! So
> please, stop preaching. You're preaching to the person she confided in most
> here.
> And i'm not being insensitive, I just don't see why people (as LilWolf
> states) get upset and sensitive about "statisitics" in a game. They aren't
> characters, they aren't people, they're the population of a region. A
> statisitic, of a game. Now if people can't accept that, then it certainly
> isn't my fault.
>


The problem are not the statistics.  The problem is the roleplayed arguments
around it.


The option only brings about the worst in people.
> > Bringing up the issue of "they deserved it" or "they're a whore" only
> > reinforces the false myth that is rape is "ok" and the woman's fault.
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> Well, if a player is being vulgar, that's different. Report it to the
> titans, in roleplays there is a fine line between being "artistic" and being
> down right, rude and, well disgusting. Because as the social contract says,
> try to ebb on the side of caution to avoid upsetting fellow players.
>

Right.  We agree there.



But, using a rape option in looting? There isn't anything decorativly
> obsurd, or disgusting about that. It's a word, in a game. If him/her get's
> upset every time she hears that said word then, well, put it this way.
> Theres nothing wrong with the game.
>


Of course it isn't.  But as I said, people do not use nor react to the
option responsibly.
I'm not upset every time I hear the word "rape".
I'm upset by the idea that raping women is ok and its their fault.



> Well if anyone does think that rape is a light subject, they're terribly
> wrong. But just by not saying it doesn't make it go away, does it? So how
> would removing "rape" from Battlemasters dictionary make the world any
> better of a place?
>


Perhaps I asked for the wrong solution.  But there is a problem.



> Well you answer me this. What does it add to the game, if we just get rid
> of that one little word? And what does it take away by putting it into a
> game function?
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> And in all honesty, I don't think making a stand about rape and about,
> yes, other terrible things like murder, etc, etc, in a game. Is going to
> make that much of a difference as a whole? Is it?
>


People who have been murdered can't play this game.  People who have been
raped can, and do.  Clowning around with a concept that should be serious
just isn't right.
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