[Discuss] inalienable rights

[AJ]

On 9/29/05, M. Covington <mcovingtoncross at gmail.com> wrote:
> But for all of you who wish to try and claim he "threatened" folks I
> think you need to take it down a few notches. All he did was say in
> public what almost each and every ruler does 90% of the time or more.
> If the ruling council of a realm requests that you do or not do
> something and you do the opposite anyway then you are going to fall
> out of favor with them.

If that is not threatening then what is? Infact, if I had been in the
realm, I would on purpose recruit infantry. My character is a noble
with no one having a right to order/"request" what to recruit/not to
recruit, tagged with an "or else" clause.

And you are very wrong with the 90% of rulers do it for I have been in
quite a few realms and I have never seen this issue. Requests yes, but
threats and retribution, no!

 That means that others will be given positions
> ahead of you and requests for gold and other special favors will be
> given to those who have shown that they are capable of following
> orders and supporting the realm. The thing that most of you are
> forgetting is that he never said it was PERMENANT. Just because a
> character falls into a black morass of ill repute with a realm does
> not mean that they will never be able to come out of that ill pit. It
> just means that that character must work harder and show better
> judgement before the ruler or duke or council feels that they can be
> trusted.

It does not matter if it is permanent or temporary. I am being
threatened and I will not stand for it. And nor should anyone whose
rights are being put down.

 How is this different from real life? It's not different at
> all. We all face these types of situations in work or school or
> personal life. It's a fact of life. If your wife asks you to not spend
> $500 on new monitor and you do it anyway then you are not going to get
> the "extra" options that would normally be available to you if you had
> not done so. ;)

I beg to disagree. I have held all council positions and in almost all
my realms, people have asked me about recruitment, attending
tournaments. And I always give one and only one answer

"It is not for me to advice you about attending a tournament/ what to
recruit." Added with.
"This and this is the situation of the realm. You can think for
yourself, and decide what you want to do. I will have absolutely no
questions about any decision you make."

And that's the end of it. If they do opposite of what I would like, so
be it. That's how the game should be played, adjusting to other
people's decisions and style and improvising on that. But never trying
to micromanage them or control them.

As I said, imo, it was wrong and that is how I stand.

aJ

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