[Discuss] Guild Treasury

[James]

Jeremy Stephens wrote:
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>
> I have a character (infiltrator) who was suddenly left responsible for 
> an Assassin’s guild a few months ago. I have been playing the 
> character as shady and willing to make this guild profitable, but have 
> encountered a few game mechanics that has not allowed this to fully 
> play out. This may be an intended feature or simply just not thought 
> out all the way so I thought I would share my understanding and hope 
> that someone could help explain or at the minimal place this 
> suggestion on a list for future improvements. If neither happens I 
> won’t complain, but will have felt that I tried.
>
> As it exists now guilds are unable to collect payments from characters 
> willing to pay for the Assassination of another player. I role played 
> this by having the “client” player place a bounty on the head of the 
> target player which the game allows and this has worked out for the 
> Assassin player. However, I would like to make the guild money and 
> often the contracts are designed where the player who contacts the 
> guild would pay a “finder’s fee” for the guilds help in locating and 
> hiring the Assassin (which in my imagination is why the guild would 
> even exist). The problem is that there is no way to collect gold on 
> behalf of the guild to place in the guild treasury from individual 
> players. The guild rarely contracts with realm governments so I don’t 
> know if that feature is available for a King, Banker etc to deposit 
> gold in support of the guild, but I would think either an individual 
> or realm could hire an Assassin for whatever purposes as part of game 
> play. I know that the game is designed to limit gold transaction from 
> occurring so maybe the guild could collect the gold having it placed 
> in the treasury, but have guild leaders limited from touching the 
> guild treasury to prevent abuse. The gold would then be used to pay 
> for guild costs etc., making the role play more realistic? There are 
> other reasons players would pay gold i.e. to have an Assassination 
> disrupt a region, assault milita, destroy storehouses etc, but the 
> guild is limited from offering these services as well because the 
> bounty system will not work for those reasons. In any case, if it is a 
> reasonable request it would be nice to see the guild elder(s) have a 
> little more flexibility to use payments of gold for the guild as a 
> whole and/or have a bounty system modified in some manner to offer 
> other types of guild services.
>
> Thanks for any consideration.
>
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>
> I just wanted to bump this back up to the top of everyone's list for 
> discussion. I think it is an idea that has some merit but perhaps I'm 
> the only one?
>
> -jer
>
>   

Associations in real life have no way of truly forcing people to pay 
dues, why should battle master be different? If someone doesn't pay, 
kick them out. If it's not worth it to the person to pay the due, 
they're more likely to leave then pay it anyway. If you give them excess 
to the guild treasury and they steal from you, inform their judge (also 
a good way to try and start a war). You are the assassins guild, if they 
don't pay "collect", act like a true assassins guild would. That I see 
as lack of role playing. There does not need to be a game mechanic for 
this. I believe the reason why it is how it is because a person could 
end up with negative bonds or gold. And it could cause a headache for 
coders, but I am not sure (it is somewhere in the archives though).


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