[Discuss] War Island Change
Siang Hong
siangperng at gmail.com
Sat Oct 13 15:44:26 CEST 2007
On 10/5/07, Mitch Shum-lok <rubydragonmsl at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: fodder <nlksfd324 at fastmail.fm>
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> Problem with not wanting to lose is that... you aim to minimise your
> losses in battle thus you try not to fight battles that you probably
> will lose.. so less and less battles as the other side isn't going to
> give you easy wins either.
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> A couple relevent quotations from Sun Tzu, in particular, the last one:
>
> 1-26. Now the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his
> temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but
> few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and
> few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by
> attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose.
>
> 4-15. Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle
> after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first
> fights and afterwards looks for victory.
>
> Unless your characters are supremely stupid, I don't see why you would order
> troops towards a certain defeat. You maneuver to position your army such
> that your enemy is forced into a battle where your certainty is winning is
> quite high. Yes, I must admit that it's quite nice to go through battle
> reports and see how your unit did...and it's quite boring to go without
> those battle reports on an island called a "war island". On the other hand,
> imagine getting a LOT of battle reports...where you /always/ lose. After a
> while, I bet it'd go from satisfying, skip boring and go straight to
> depressing.
>
> Mitch
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Haha - nice quotes. However, by calculations he means many things and
Sun Tzu prefers to use diplomacy instead of military to secure
victory.
BM is not a place one can exercise his wisdom - dont think Sun Tzu
himself can do anything - I bet he will get struck by lightning storm
within a day if he were a general in BM ;p - he places discipline of
the army above all else.
Besides that, there are the strategy limitations in BM. Who could
defeat a 50,000 cs army with 10,000 cs in a battle in BM? I cant, you
cant and Sun Tzu cant ;p In his era though, a 1:5 ration would be
considered an unfair battle for his opponent.
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