[Discuss] "Strip titles" recommendations

[Mark Moss]

On Monday 05 November 2007 21:45, Timothy Collett wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Mark Moss wrote:
> > 1. It should take a few turns for the strip titles option to go
> > into effect.
> > After all, it's going to take the bureaucracy some time to research
> > the claim
> > and update all of the records.
>
> I'm not sure about this...perhaps it should cast the character into a
> limbo state for those few turns.

Good idea.  Perhaps the target still officially retains his titles for that 
time,  but is considered suspect.  Actions which are largely anonymous or 
basically amount to ordering commons around would still be allowed.  Anything 
which requires interactions with other nobles would be impossible.  For 
example:

Hold court, transfer food, build/repair/tear down would all be allowed.
Offer/accept oaths,  assign knights to the army,  etc. would not be allowed.

> Part of the point about the option is that it can eliminate someone's
> power instantly.

It's been a while since I've been a judge, but doesn't the "kick-out" IC ban 
immediately lock the target out of most activities?  The problem I see is 
that some ruler use "strip titles" as an expedient alternative to asking the 
judge for a ban.

> > 2. There should be a significant chance that the bureaucracy will
> > find that
> > the title _is_ legitimate making the character (family?) immune
> > from future
> > challenges.

> *ONLY* for a short time.  Otherwise it becomes way, way too powerful
> for them.

It might make sense for the immunity to last only as long as both the ruler is 
in power and the target remains in the realm.  If the ruler _really_ wants 
the character gone, they can always bribe the bureaucracy. 

> > Perhaps the ruler could also bribe the bureaucracy to ensure that
> > they find the title to be illegitimate.
>
> I like that :-)
>
> Timothy Collett
> Anaris Family



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