[Discuss] "Strip titles" recommendations

[Rob McDonald]

On 11/6/07, Timothy Collett <danaris at mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Mark Moss wrote:
> > 1. It should take a few turns for the strip titles option to go
> > into effect.
> > After all, it's going to take the bureaucracy some time to research
> > the claim
> > and update all of the records.
>
> I'm not sure about this...perhaps it should cast the character into a
> limbo state for those few turns.
>
> Part of the point about the option is that it can eliminate someone's
> power instantly.
>
> > 2. There should be a significant chance that the bureaucracy will
> > find that
> > the title _is_ legitimate making the character (family?) immune
> > from future
> > challenges.
>
> *ONLY* for a short time.  Otherwise it becomes way, way too powerful
> for them.
>
> > Perhaps the ruler could also bribe the bureaucracy to ensure that
> > they find the title to be illegitimate.
>
> I like that :-)
>
> Timothy Collett


Why not just have it based on a vote by the nobles? Nobility has to be
recognised by many people for you to be considered a noble. If only a
minority supported the king, and he claimed someone to be a commoner, why
should everyone suddenly treat the accused as such?

His support would believe him, but the others may not, and if most of the
people in the realm considered the accused to be a noble, then he still
would be, regardless of what the king might say.

Doesn't the option even say you are throwing doubt on his nobility? That
implies thought processes on the behalf of everyone else to decide for
themselves, not that you are deciding he is not a noble.
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