[Discuss] Estates Problems

[Christopher Subich]

James wrote:
> Alex Davies wrote:
>> Claims provide no real incentive for losing realms not to keep 
>> fighting just to spite the winning realm. They're a good strategic 

> As Tom said, you don't lose more regions.  Ending the war now and losing 
> 1 region is better then ending it in a few days and losing 2 and a few 
> more and losing 3.

There's no contradiction here.  Losing a war is incentive to end it -- 
that's called surrender.  Claims don't make the extortion effects any 
stronger.  ("Nice city you got there.  It would be a shame if someone 
happened to... march an army in and raise their own banner.")

Claims have been in the game for some time now, and clearly the 
incentive effect (if present) is not as strong as desired.  Recent 
changes (duchy penalties for police work, estates) might change this, 
but effectively halting expansion swings the balance too far the other way.

Ideally, expansion through war should be slow and ponderous -- ideally 
slower than recapture of the same land by the original owner would be. 
That will give a defending realm maximum time to find and press an 
advantage, and by lengthening wars the risks for the attacker increase. 
  That would encourage short (more frequent) border skirmishes, moreso 
than any balance of "claims and hard maintenance" would.


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