[Discuss] More hero options: Name unique items, write last will, roleplay last living moments

[Robert Croson, Jr]

On 1 Dec 2007 at 17:19, Jonas De Greef wrote:

> I think that if you would simply drop the item on the battlefield to
> make it appear "thousands of years later", or simply when you give it
> to the killer, it would be a real loss of RP, which is in fact the
> only good reason to implement this: The RP behind it. And besides,
> we're not talking about legendary items of +5 here. Most will be lower
> than +2 anyway. 

Should be +1 Prestige only. The prestige given by the item will increase over 
time as it is used in battle. It may eventually hit +6 prestige, or even higher.

> For starters, giving it to the killer is in fact impossible if not in
> a duel. On a battlefield, you just get killed by a random person, not
> even necessarily a noble...

Incorrect. Nobles that are seriously wounded or killed in battle are killed by 
another noble. You can see this effect when a noble with a bounty is seriously 
wounded or killed in battle. Someone on the other side is chose to be the one 
that caused the wound/death, and the bounty is awarded to them. I have seen 
this happen a few times. It is a relatively rare situation, though.

> About adventurers finding it... I just
> don't like the idea because it makes the item almost impossible to
> find. Imagine how slim the chances are of having adventurers gathering
> in a region where a hero died... And the code already makes the chance
> of retrieving unique items by gathering very slim. 

You don't have to be gathering to find it. An advy can find a unique item by 
doing *anything* in the region. One advy on BT traveled into a Grehk and the 
"You have arrived in..." message also included a note about how the gods must 
be smiling on him, because he happened to find the Daimonic Dagger of 
something-or-other.

IMO, having an advy find it and sell it to a noble allows more players to get 
involved in the story. It also allows more opportunities for advy's.

> In roleplay, there would always be someone to carry the fallen body of
> his master away from the battlefield. Or just someone who comes to
> look after it after the battle is over. Otherwise heroes can never be
> buried, and the game shows that they always are. I guess when an item
> is unique, the one retrieving the body will also retrieve the precious
> item at the same time.

Unless it was lost in the confusion of battle. It's possible that the 
sword/mace/shield was picked up by some random soldier, who later died from 
his wounds miles away from the battlefield. Or that the noble lost the item 
*before* he died. After all, a unique item can be lost when you get seriously 
wounded. It's quite possible that the hero'sitem was lost during the initial 
wounding, and not during the final killing blow. (Besides which, there may not 
have been a final "killing blow", they could die from blood loss, complications of 
the wound, infection, etc.)

You can't say that things "walways" happen this way or that way. There are an 
incredible multitude of ways that things could have happened. After all, if it 
always happened the same way, that would be boring.

> So I think, to keep things simple and easy to
> implement in the code, that the unique item is for the family to give
> to a noble of their choice. Like, besides having the option of "Bury
> hero" also the option of "Create unique item" (and while we're at it,
> why not also: "Write last will" and "Roleplay last moments of life",
> check the Wish List on the wiki). 
> 
> In addition, I really like the "roleplay last moments of life" and
> "write last will" options. Most players do it anyway, but go through
> OOC means by letting friends post it or other characters. I mean, if
> something is already being done but by OOC means, then why just not
> make it easier and give an IC option to do it. Way more regulated and
> a bonus to the gameplay. 

Meh... This option doesn't reaslly do anything for me one way or the other. I 
have no strong opinions about it one way or the other.


-- 
Rob

What do you say to an angry witch?
"Ribbit."




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