[Discuss] ] Feature requests: Expanded secret police and judge options

[Matt Runyon]

Jonas De Greef wrote:
> I really like the idea that's behind the secret police option, but I find it 
> a pity that it is so limited. Not only the amount of options, but also the 
> amount of employers. Only the rulers currently have a secret police. This is 
> a misunderstanding from modern times, with secret services being under the 
> direct control of presidents and the government.
>
> In medieval times (timeframe of BM), the term "secret police" mostly just 
> indicated a group of men hired to get into the dirty business of their 
> masters. You could compare them to members of modern syndicats, triads, 
> maffia, ... It was a gang of secret supporters that obtained information 
> about people and handled them at their master's bidding.
>
> Why I want more people to be able to use the secret police option, is 
> because once you get some power and influence, you'll always be able to 
> gather some men around you to do those things. Think of bands and gangs. As 
> soon as you've got a name, you get these kind of supporters.
>
> I'd suggest that also Lords and council members have a "secret police".
>
> As for the amount of options, they should be really more plenty. Also the 
> amount of information the police gathers. Normally they should give as much 
> information as they can find out.
>
> Beating up and assassinations were also common in the medieval times. Don't 
> worry about abuse of this option. Fingers are sure to be pointed and this is 
> an option that you better don't use much. But it should be available none 
> the less.
>
> For detailed information, 
> http://wiki.battlemaster.org/index.php/User:Foreign_Curs/Suggestion:Expanded_secret_police_options
>
> As for the extra judge options I refer to
> http://wiki.battlemaster.org/index.php/User:Foreign_Curs/Suggestion:Juridical_warning_%26_log
>
> Hoping for some positive reaction!
I tend to like your idea just as a general rule, but there's a couple of 
points I'd like to raise:

-Who cares if you have what we'd call a title?  Every noble in game is 
"titled", that's why we're nobles.  I'd make it prestige/money based.  
In an affluent realm, everyone and their brother might be intriguing.  
In a poor realm, only the big fish would be.  But, said big fish could 
be those with very wealthy families, as is right and proper.
-Beat up and Assassinate.  I really don't think this is a good idea.  
The kind of nobles that might get beaten up like that would be 
non-player nobles.  EVERY character is a highly important noble, and 
besides, most have loyal units that could tear any toughs into 
mincemeat.  Anything more skilled than that falls under the category of 
Infiltrators.
-However, this does lead to other ideas.  You could Beat Up people in a 
region who are badmouthing you.  As in, you're a region lord of X, and 
let's say you find out your peasants aren't happy you don't share their 
religion.  You send your flunkies out, beat up the vocal ones, and 
everyone learns to keep their mouths shut!  Would work well with the 
proposed fear based control.

Possibly more thoughts later, but those were the things that leaped to 
mind.  Great idea in general, though!


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