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Timothy Collett danaris at mac.com
Thu Apr 12 15:31:27 CEST 2007


On Apr 12, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Dorian Gray wrote:
> I very rarely carry around deeds stating I don't own property X.  
> You'd be looking for an absence of records, rather than a record  
> saying Noble Bob is not the Lord of Fredville.

What about documents indicating that *your* documents are faked?

> When you buy a title, isn't there some message saying 'bureaucrats  
> have found ancient documents proving Bob to be Lord of Fredville,  
> said bureaucrats were nowhere to be found afterwards'? There's no  
> paper trail to the fraudsters.

Not to the casual eye, but it seems likely that there would be  
*something* that could be turned up by someone with some money to  
spend.  Even if not, it's gotta be suspicious to begin with that he  
just *happened* to find this out, which would add to the credibility  
of fraud allegations...(and see below)

> Deal with them. Remember, your character doesn't know automatically  
> that the title was bought. I see all too often people crying 'Bob  
> bought the lordship of Fredville' when IC, they've got nothing but  
> questionable but extant 'ancient documents'. Your character doesn't  
> have to like it, but they're there, so either strip/ban them for  
> faked charges of treason against the crown a week after, or  
> something similar, or integrate them.

Fine, then: let there be *other* ways that someone can mysteriously  
and randomly become the lord of a region--because until that happens,  
95% of the players are just going to say, "Well, no one appointed  
you, so you must have bought the title!"

Frankly, I don't really buy that our characters can't "know" that,  
either.  I mean, certainly they ought to know that, even if it only  
takes 3 hours to get from Region A to Region B, and 3 hours to get  
from Region B to Region C, it will still take a full day to get from  
Region A to Region C.  Or that you can't found a new city.  Or that,  
once the population in a region reaches a certain number, it will  
*never* get higher.  Or maybe even that, no matter how hard you try,  
you can *never* kill someone by stabbing them with a poisoned dagger-- 
only by fighting them in an honourable duel to the death.

If they *don't* know these things, and they act accordingly, they're  
going to look like utter idiots.  So why is it such a stretch to say,  
given that there is *no* other way for someone to gain a a title  
without being appointed, that they *know* that someone who suddenly  
"inherits" a title actually forged it?

Timothy Collett
Anaris Family

--

"You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants  
don't help"
  -- Calvin




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