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[Discuss] Buy Title issue (was: Infils stealing tax gold)

Robert Croson, Jr robert at arcm.com
Wed Apr 11 17:16:06 CEST 2007


On 11 Apr 2007 at 16:58, struik at t-online.de wrote:

> It is well known over the game that you can not buy regions connected
> to the capital.  That you can buy the capital is a clear bug. 

I believe the restriction you are talking about deals with not being able to buy the title to a region with a claim on it, when that 
region is adjacent to the claim holder's capital.

In the recent case on BT, the person that bought the title to the city was a member of the realm, and baught the title to their own 
realm's capital. The city does not have a claim on it, and it is not adjacent to any enemy regions, let alone an enemy capital.

> Also how  do you explain in character that someone buys the title and
> destroyed all infrastructure of the city. You can not. It is not the
> behaviour of a duke. 

Dukes (in BattleMaster, anyway, don't know about RL) have been known to 
destroy the infrastructure of their own cities before. It has happened one other 
time off the top of my head. In that case, the duke seceded the city to form a 
new realm. There was some sort of falling out with the realm and he was mass 
protested out of the rulership. To spite the realm, he proceded to destroy the 
entire infrastructure of the city and dismiss all the militia to leave the city open 
to attack from their enemies. He was a Royal, so they couldn't even ban him. 
(They eventually OOC-banned him.)

Dukes have also been known to used "scorched earth" tactics to deny a 
conquering invader the use of the resources of the conquered territory.

> This is pure ooc power gaming in my eyes with the focus on doing as
> much damage as possible to gain strategical advantage in a war.

The player in question in the recent BT incident did not abuse any bugs to do 
what he did. The realm had left the city without a duke for a considerable 
length of time, so it was easily preventable.

I am not sure if this could be labeled as OOC behavior. The player in question 
has some negative history with the realm attacked. Not exactly good 
sportsmanlike behavior, that's for sure. But that doesn't make it OOC 
powergaming.

Perhaps it deserves more discussion as to whether or not controls need to be 
put in place to prevent this type of behavior. But it would have to be very well 
thought out to prevent many types of legitimate behavior, as well.


-- 
Rob

Is there a way to tell if bureaucrats are sitting
on their hands or covering their @$$es?




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