[Discuss] Dictator abusing power

[Lyman Stone]

>
> Of course it would. You are, in effect, banning a character for  
> being a hero.
> Remember that your characters don't know they can't die unless they  
> decide to
> be a "hero".
>
Actually, the "I dont want your death on my conscience" would be a  
really horrible reason to ban. BEcause, in RL, anybody can die in  
battle, so, as Robert said, it strictly OOC.

>
> Same thing. If you take any action against a character based on his  
> choice of
> class, you are violating that person's inalienable rights.

Now thats wrong. Tom himself ENCOURAGES people to set tax points how  
they want classes to be. I cant quote him, but hasnt he said that  
manipulating tax points (i.e. offering incentives to, say, traders)  
is the rightw ay to get people to change classes? Also, what about  
offering different orders to, say, infiltrators or beurocrats? Maybe  
we wont call them that, maybe we'll say, "Assassins and  
administrators". In RL, they wouldnt travel with the main army, why  
should we be forced to refrain from descrimination here? SHould we  
order people into and out of classes? No. Can we give different  
orders to different classes? Yes... maybe we want "those who most  
valiantly fight in the frontlines" (i.e. heroes) to go on a campaign,  
while "those who merely command troops" (i.e. soldiers) to guard the  
cities.
>
> How would you know that he's a member of a religion? Remember that  
> classes
> are an OOC game mechanic. They should be ignored in strictly IC
> conversations. Characters shouldn't even have a concept of a  
> character's class.

The Priest class is not an OOC game mechanic. Well, yes, it is, but  
it isnt. Look in history. There is a priest SOCIAL CLASS. Its there,  
in your history books. People CHOSE to become a PRIEST. Maybe they  
said "vocation" instead of "class". Same concept. Also, it make sense  
for my characters to be aware that one man likes to fight in the  
frontlines with his men, doing "deeds of heroism", or that one man is  
a great nobleman, honorable, and aprestigious figure (i.e. cavalier).

>
> The character could RP himself as not being a priest. Unless he was  
> caught red-
> handed doing something priestly, how would you know he was a  
> priest? He
> could pretend to be something else. A burocrat or an infiltrator.  
> I'm not sure
> how he would do that, and he couldn't just come out and *say* he  
> was a buro
> or infil, as that is again an OOC thing. I don't know a lot about  
> priests, so I
> don't know if doing priestly things results in region reports being  
> generated to
> the realm. How would you catch him? I have no idea.

Ways to know he's a Priest:
1. Preaching
2. Passing out holy books
3. Looking like one

Also, mechanics trump RP. If the game says, "you converted 89  
people", and you RP converting an entire region, then you're RPing  
wrong, or your character is delusional. if a character's class is a  
Priest, then they are a priest, clergy, cleric, pastor, monk, rabbi,  
imam, teacher, whatever.

The other way to catch a priest is the scout report. It says, under  
"other characters": "Name (PRIEST)" Its a bit of a giveaway.

Also, you could come out and say you are a beuro or an infil.  
"Greetings, I am an administrator, and a beaurocrat, I just push  
papers, please dont hurt me". See?

I dont think classes are AS OOC as you say. Maybe I'mw rong, but I  
dont think they're entirely OOC. I RP around my characters' classes.



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