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[Discuss] Role playing with OOC knowledge.

Alex Davies the1exile at hotmail.co.uk
Fri Sep 8 22:50:38 CEST 2006


>From: James <TheKobald at tampabay.rr.com>
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>Subject: [Discuss] Role playing with OOC knowledge.
>Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:53:41 -0400
>
>OK, one of my characters assassinated someone on FEI "Role Play Island".  
>It was a "perfect" attempt, surprised and wounded while sleeping.  Their 
>player, who has another character in the same realm and now region as he 
>was assassinated sends me this message *
>Letter from XXX*   /(2 hours, 20 minutes ago)/
>Message sent to all allies in this region (3 recipients)
>NZER JR!
>
>You bastard! What the HELL did XXX ever do to deserve your assasination of 
>him? He was only 17, for Luna's sake!
>
>Now he lies dead, in an Osaliel morgue.
>
>Do you have the guts to fight me, or is it simply easier for you to sneak 
>around attacking unarmed youngsters?
>XXX
>Marshal of the army of XXXX
>
>He is obviously using out of character information to determine that I did 
>it (the only infiltrator in the region when it was done last turn (along 
>with another)) but then role playing about it.  Also using ooc information 
>to even know that I'm in the region (clicking the message everyone in the 
>region option and seeing who's there that shouldn't be), because my skill 
>is over 60 and thus I don't show up on scouting reports or in the region.  
>These are things that have to stop on FEI or just make it not a role play 
>island and just make it EC Jr. or Atamara Jr.  There needs to be some sort 
>of punishment for the power gaming.  I don't think this case warrants a 
>report to the titans, but we need to have someone there that can say "don't 
>do that again or you're off the island" and then when you do it again kick 
>you off the island.  You can set it up the same way as the titans are.  A 
>group of three people and it takes 2 out of 3 or perhaps all 3 to determine 
>that something is wrong.

Actually, no. Everything was done to ensure that was taken IC. A message 
moments before that priest char was assassinated was sent to the banker of 
the realm and a member of the religion. When he chose to send it on after 
the assassination to the other members of the religion, the char mentioned 
there knew.

As for "manipulating" this bug, when I last saw it it was on a bug report on 
the old message system with won't fix. I don't make a habit of looking at 
the bugtracker to see what is bugs and what isn't, and the "Known Bugs" 
didn't list it. Another point to note is that the other realm, in which 
James is with his infil, has in the past used exactly the same "exploit".

I also have further IC messages implicating this infil, such as this : "He 
[other ruler] said that he didn't want the infiltrator to attack, but this 
one seemed to have a grudge against XXX's family."

Please do not accuse me of powergaming without proof.

The1exile (AKA SniperChief)

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