[Discuss] Suggestion: Claims length v. Realm existence

[Thomas Dalton]

> The Duchess of Colasan seceeded from Lasanar, taking Colasan (city), Isular
> (rural), and Ossaet (neighboring city, part of a different Duchy) with her.
> Our (loyal) Duke of Ossaet was automatically removed, and Lasanar had no
> claims on any of the three regions. The noble appointed by the Duchess of
> Colasan (now Queen) as Duke of Ossaet then seceeded from the new realm,
> creating his own realm just in Ossaet.

I don't think cities should join a new realm of their own volition.
Before the duchy system was introduced, cities just took neighbouring
regions with a random chance, but now it should just be the duchy that
goes with the city. I'm not sure if that's been implemented or not, so
I'm not sure if it's a bug report or a feature request...

> After conquering all three regions, the seceeded realms (none of which exist
> anymore) still have claims, and we cannot appoint lords to any of them. If I
> recall from negotiations with the seceeded Duke of Ossaet, it wasn't
> possible to negotiate a surrender with a realm that had only one region (as
> it's apparently impossible to hand over the last region of a realm) so he
> had no incentive to do anything other than sit there and let us come for
> him.

You could have offered to let him remain duke of the city, under your
realm's control. However, I'm not sure how you'd transfer the city, as
you have to be at war to do a TO.

Prehaps the "You can't surrender the capital" rule should be removed.
For a start, the person doing the surrendering is the duke, not the
ruler. If they want to betray their realm and surrender their city,
why should they care that it's the capital? A ruler surrendering the
capital doesn't make much sense (unless they are also duke and want to
keep the title), but a duke surrendering makes perfect sense.


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