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[Discuss] Seccessions

Dimitris Zikos dimitriszzz at yahoo.gr
Wed Oct 4 16:12:44 CEST 2006


Can someone please define the exact meaning of a
"strategic seccession" -which is not allowed- and of a
proper seccession?

What I wonder is if the cases below are considered
"strategic" seccessions or not.

1. Realm A has grown a lot. So it needs to split up in
two parts. Of course the leadership wants the new
realm to be a close ally. But also needs a proper
reason to secceed a city. So realm A uses the excuse
of "keeping an old promise and recerating the now dead
realm B". The secccesion is made and teh two realms
maintain neutral, peaceful or even closer diplomatic
relationships.

2. Realm A is at the edge of destruction. So instead
of giving up, asks from realm B to hand out a City in
order to move there itts capital and abandon all its
previious regions. Realm B favours the idea as the
particular city is under constant threat so it gladly
agrees to give it away (not exactly a seccesion if
realm A is still alive. But as well, realm A can die
first and then relocate to the city of realm B)

3. The Duke of a City is pissed off with the council.
So he comes into arrangement with the council of an
enemy realm and secceeds. Teh new realm is at war with
the mother realm but raises diplomatic relationship
with the former enemy within few days or weeks.

4. Realm A has found an excuse to secceed peacefully
from the mother realm B. There has never been a war
between the two realms but instead realm B has given
more regions to the offspring realm A and has used it
as a buffer zone to protect its borders. Later on,
realm B demands its land back and agrees to help realm
A to conquer land and a city and move there.

I can give more examples but I belive that these are
enough to illustrate my point.

Now, in my opinion all cases includes to a certain
point the element of strategy. In the first case,
realm A finds a way to reduce its size, which is
generally a disadvantage, and gain a close ally. In
the second case, realm B gives teh burden of
protecting a weak city to another realm so it can
concentrate on war efforts elswhere. In teh 3rd case
the startegic advantage goes to the enemy and not to
the mother realm but the idea is teh same. A
seccession to take or give a strategic advanatge over
someone else. Finally the last case, refers to a past
seccession and an ongoing close collaboration between
two realms that leads to a long-lasting strategic
advanatge over the common enemies.

But if that´s the case, then when a seccesion can
take place WITHOUT giving any strategic advanatges
either to the enemy or to the mother realm? Is there a
general rule to explain when a seccession is
considered "strategic"? (for example: "Strategic
seccesion is when it gives strategic advanatges to the
mother realm, but it is not when it gives advanatge to
the enemy")


	

	
		
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