[Discuss] RE: Discuss Digest, Vol 18, Issue 12

[Timothy Collett]

On May 3, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:

>> Yes, you missed the point. The point is that "blindly follow orders"
>> doesn't make for a very good game.
>
> Remove all punishments (ie. fines and bannings) - probably the entire
> judge position, in fact.  Allow lieges to "disown" their vassals,
> confiscating their lands if their a knight (which would make them an
> imperial knight using the current names - imperial knights should get
> very little if any gold, I'd like it if the tax system was entirely
> done through the hierarchy, but just stopping unaligned nobles getting
> much would do), throwing their region out of the duchy if they're a
> lord or their duchy out of the realm (ie. forced secession) if they're
> a duke.
>
> That would be much more realistic and would result in rulers having
> the persuade their nobles to come and fight, which I believe is what
> actually happened.

That would be more realistic, yes.  I don't think it's a good change  
for fun and the spirit of the game, but that's neither here nor there  
just now.

Unfortunately, you and Tom are both missing a very important point  
here: for the most part, people *WANT* to be ordered around.  There  
are a few rebellious elements, some for RP reasons, others for OOC  
reasons, but I've taken more flak for *not* giving any orders in  
Riombara for a good while, and just letting people do what they want  
and what they think will benefit the realm, than I have for almost  
any orders I've ever given.

This *is* a lightweight game--and for many, like it or not, that  
means, "Log in, see orders, follow orders."  Anything more would mean  
they'd have to study the situation, figure out a lot more about  
what's going on, and decide what to do for themselves.  That's not  
what they're there for.  Sure, they enjoy the battles, they like to  
be winning the war, it's fun for them.  But not having specific  
orders, and having to figure out what to do, would leave most of them  
just standing around.

Now, if you want to make changes to try to *change* this attitude,  
that's fine by me (well, depending on the changes ;-) ); I'm not  
saying it's good or bad, just that it's what I've observed.

Timothy Collett
Anaris Family

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